Mulan Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Oh i didn't know what you meant by epic. Um...damn it well I think Back to the Future should count. Come on...I was torn when the doloreian got struck by lightning too! Why does a little comedic element automatically rule out this as an epic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 Argh i suppose it doesnt but the poll was meant to be (not that that's ever mattered) Star Wars Vs Lord of the Rings Vs Matrix in the battle for "greatest epic trilogy" in the traditional sense of the epic, which even Matrix conforms to, at points. Vote for "other" like Silent Bob if ya want, but its not really contributing... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulan Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Ok if not Back to the Future...hmmm how about the Sergio Leone spaghetti westerns? No comedy there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 ...good pick. Didnt answer which of the 3 sereis' here ya liked, but still, really good pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Snake Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Never got round to watching any of em myself but I'd imagine the Godfather trilogy to be considered an epic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Good pick, KOS. Can't believe we forgot about those... But, I'm guessin' that IC was looking for more Illiad and Odyssey-type epics. I dunno. I can't figure out how to define an epic. Can anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 the poll was meant to be (not that that's ever mattered) Star Wars Vs Lord of the Rings Vs Matrix in the battle for "greatest epic trilogy" Hold the phone! Just a minute! If this is a poll for greatest epic trilogy, in the strictest sese of the word, does that mean we're dicussing only the original star wars trilogy (Epi4-6)? That changes EVERYTHING! Even The Neverending Story can't beat the original trilogy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 How about..."which epic series do you like more, Star Wars, Lord of the Ring, or The Matrix", based on what weve seen & heard so far...? Christ, ya bring in Godfather & The Man with No Name trilogy and it aint even fair! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 James Bond isn't epic...how about Planet of the Apes, except for the god-awful last one (battle for the POTA), that was a great epic series. 4 out of 5 ain't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 The Matrix wins! Hoo hah, you folks have taste after all! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier of fortune Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Well i'm Boromir!! Ah well. Â The way i see it is, Matrix, fucking spectacular so far, and very original looking forward to the next installments. Â LOTR is already considered an Epic in the literary world, a monster fucking book, thats an excellent read so far, just finished the Fellowship of the Ring, and thats better than the film, the film was class, but the book uses your imagination, on screen your seeing how other people interpret things in the book. Its still fooking good though. Â Star Wars, while amazing, and ahead of its time, never really appealed to me, and the two newer prequels havent stimulated my interest enough in that particular group of films. Â On what i've seen, and the fact i have the DVD the Matrix gets my vote, but only just ahead of LOTR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Snake Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Same here with Star Wars, I saw them loadsa times as a sprog but never had that much desire to see them again, the prequels haven't done it for me either... Â LotR I'm not that keen on but SoF'll tell you I came out of the cinema complaining...but that's not to say the next two won't be great. Â Matrix gets my vote, great start to the series with the next couple looking badass so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 I'm reading The fellowship of the ring right now SOF. I just finished up the Council of Elrond. Crazy series if it doesn't let up, which i doubt it will. The Matrix really is thsi generations Star Wars if you ask me. Just hope that they don't release some horrible prequel trilogy in 20 years, cause witht he matrix, they is obvious material for prequel scripts: The rising of the machines, downfall of man, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier of fortune Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 Well the fellowship is really a good book, i am waiting for the rest of the books to come to me in the mail (yes i know that the LOTR is only one book) but i've ordered the three for € 20, Two Towers, and Return of The King, and whilst on a Tolkien trip, also the Hobbit, hardback for €13. They will be here any day now, until then i have David Baldaccis - Total Control to finish!  I don't doubt that the book will be fantastic, it is wetting my appetite for the next film! which looks pretty cool!  PS €1 is approx = US $ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 LOTR isn't one book, it's three. It's possible to buy one bound edition of all three, but for the most part they are sold separately. I bought the four books (Hobbit + LOTR) in a box set for a few bucks and used book store. I'm on The Two Towers now. Fuck, man, 167 pages into it (over a third of the book) and no word from Frodo and Sam! Will there be no mention of them until the Return of the King? Stupid suspense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier of fortune Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Hey Jack you spoil any of that shit, i'll kill you. It was realeased in three seperates for the American publishers, it was meant to be just one continuous book, and it is not meant to be referred to as a Trilogy. Its one!! God damn it!! Â No spoilers Jack, i mean it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 It was men to be one book, but they split them up, and they published them years apart from each other. Since they were released at difference times and the majority of editions have been printed in separate books, they are considered a trilogy, even if the story was written as one. I'm not spoiling anything. Sorry if I said too much (I didn't think I said anything spoiler-like). My roommate was reading the Two Towers too, and we has trying to spoil stuff for me, but I've been catching up and soon I'll have passed him since he lost him copy, and then the shoe will be on the other foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier of fortune Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Its one god damn it!!! Â Yeah they were released yrs apart, but, it is meant to one. So therefore it can't be referred to as a trilogy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 See, I actually think that teh 'one vision' is necesary for a trilogy. I don't think of Jurassic Park as a trilogy; I consider it a series. Star Wars was one vision to start with, so it's a trilogy. Back To The Future was actually not all written out, but the rough idea of the next two installment were in place before first one was made. The Matrix was the same way, otherwise they would have tried to show the downfall of the matrix in the end of the first movie. To me, if there's one vision behind three movies (or books), that is a trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAdvoc8 Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 STAR WARS is SIX episodes long and spanned an entire UNIVERSE that does not include Earth!! Â It RULES supreme and set the standard for all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Star was is NINE episodes long, in theory. Lucas had a huge scope for the story and the history behind it. He looked at it after getting is basic outline figured out and said to himself This is way too ambious for one movie, I'll break it up into a trilogy. So he did. He looked at the thrid parts and decided the second would be best for a story. He looked at it again and said to himself This is also way too ambious for one movie, I'll break IT up into a trilogy. He did the first part and of the second trilogy, hoping to be able to do the other two parts someday. But he decided the other two trilogyies were kinda boring and only served him as a history and backstory for his own purposes to get his story in place. After years and years of pressure to see prequels, because he named the three movies Episodes 4, 5 and 6, he finally said OK and made the prequel trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier of fortune Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 The prequels so far have been shite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 4, 2002 Author Share Posted September 4, 2002 Eh, cmon now, episode II was fun, but ji still enjoyed one movie of the Matrix more than both prequels combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Yeah, EpII was fun, but nowhere near as fun as Star Wars or Empire. And don't get me started on the dialogue! It's a shame he cancelled his proposed third trilogy. It would have been nice to see some of the old characters again. Han, especially. I've always believed that one of the biggest problems with the prequels has been the lack of a Han Solo character. There just aren't any intelligent "everyman" characters, they're all high-and-lofty politicians and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAdvoc8 Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 han's character is being SORELY missed but who would have the genius to fill such a void? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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